Welcome to Episode 011 of The Household Reformation Podcast
With Bryan Furlong, Austin Tucker — and special guest Robbie Stringer, Elder at Gracepointe Church.
“You’ve been told there’s a plan for the Church… and another for Israel.
You’ve been told supporting the modern state of Israel is a litmus test for faithfulness.
And if you ask questions, you’ll be called an antisemite.
But what if Christ didn’t come to delay the Kingdom—but to bring it?
What if the Church is Israel—not its replacement, but its fulfillment?”
Today on The Household Reformation Podcast, we go to war with dispensationalism.
This isn’t just a debate about end times charts or political alliances. This is about identity. This is about legacy. This is about what you’re raising your children to believe about the Church, the Kingdom, and the covenant promises of God.
LISTENER NOTE: We understand that a good majority of listeners will likely fall into one of two camps: 1) The group that gets mad that we’re even entertaining a different idea than dispensationalism and 2) The group that has no idea what it is. Either way, we hope not to offend, but discuss what almost every Christian believed prior to 200 years ago. If you fall into group 1, we hope you’ll give the episode a listen anyway. If you fall into group 2, listen and if you have questions, feel free to ask us.
🧱 Segment 1: Why This Matters for Households
Dispensationalism isn’t just bad eschatology, it’s bad anthropology.
If you teach your family the Church is “Plan B,” you’ll raise your children to expect retreat, not dominion. A fragmented view of God’s people leads to a fractured view of the Christian mission.
“There are not two people of God—one earthly and one heavenly. There is not one path for the Church and another for Israel. There is one body, one Spirit, and one future hope.”
📖 Segment 2: The Text That Shatters the Wineskins
Matthew 9:1–17 — Jesus didn’t come to patch the old system. He came to fulfill it.
Old wineskins = Mosaic Judaism
New wine = The Kingdom through Christ
No more types and shadows. The Kingdom has come.
These 17 verses dismantle dispensational myths and ethnic idolatry.
🗺️ Segment 3: Covenant Clarity > Prophecy Charts
Galatians 3:29 – If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring.
Ephesians 2 – One new man.
Romans 11 – One olive tree.
We walk through the Covenant Map:
Abrahamic – Promise
Mosaic – Exposure
Davidic – The King
New – Fulfillment in Christ
The Church is not a parenthesis. It’s the point.
🏛️ Segment 4: Who Is Israel?
Galatians 6:16 — “The Israel of God”
Romans 9:6 — “Not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.”
Dispensationalism keeps old walls up that Christ tore down.
Christ does not have two brides.
⚔️ Segment 5: The Dispensational Error
Origin:
1800s – John Nelson Darby
Scofield Reference Bible
American revivalism → Christian Zionism
It teaches:
Two peoples
Two tracks
Two salvations
The result?
Rapture escapism
Political idolatry
Loser theology
“We handed over Christendom because we thought we were supposed to lose.”
— The Kingdom Has Come, Bryan D. Furlong
🔥 Segment 6: The Kingdom Has Come
Matthew 8 – Jesus touches, heals, restores.
Isaiah 53 – “He took our illnesses…”
Jeremiah 31 – The New Covenant will not fail.
This is not flattery. It’s reversal.
And it is grace.
🛡️ Segment 7: Pastoral Charge to the Listener
Preach Christ to everyone, including Jews.
Don’t withhold the Gospel in the name of politics.
Raise your kids to see the Church as the blessed people of God—not second-tier saints.
Teach them:
Christ is the Temple
Christ is the fulfillment
The Church is His bride
“You’re not waiting for a future dispensation, you’re living in the fulfilled one.”
📖 Interested in reading books by the hosts?
Bryan:
Austin:
✒️ Extra Field Notes: Why We Must Preach, Not Patronize
Paul’s heart for Israel wasn’t political, it was evangelistic.
He wept not because they lacked land or power, but because they lacked Christ.
“For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel.” – Romans 9:6
True antisemitism is refusing to preach the Gospel.
The greatest act of love toward the Jewish people is to declare that the Messiah has come, and His name is Jesus.
🕰️ Historical Witnesses
This isn’t a new idea. It’s the historic confession of the Church:
Augustine:
“The Jews…will be led to the true faith in due time; not through separate salvation, but through the same grace that saved us.”
Luther (early):
“We should act in love… so that they may come to know their true Messiah.”
Calvin:
“There is but one root… all the branches must draw life from it.”
Edwards:
“They shall be gathered not politically, but spiritually—by repentance and faith.”
They didn’t flatter Israel. They preached Christ. So should we.
📚 Covenant Theology vs. Dispensationalism
People of God
Covenant Theology: One unified people—Jew and Gentile united in Christ
Dispensationalism: Two separate peoples—Israel and the Church
Covenants
Covenant Theology: One unified covenant of grace across redemptive history
Dispensationalism: Multiple, disconnected dispensations with different arrangements
Kingdom
Covenant Theology: The Kingdom is both now and not yet
Dispensationalism: The Kingdom is future and primarily for ethnic Israel
Temple
Covenant Theology: Jesus is the true and final Temple
Dispensationalism: A future physical temple must be rebuilt in Jerusalem
Israel
Covenant Theology: Fulfilled in Christ and extended to all nations
Dispensationalism: National Israel remains central to God’s plan
Church
Covenant Theology: The Church is the true Israel
Dispensationalism: The Church is a temporary “parenthesis” in God’s plan
Sacraments
Covenant Theology: Baptism and the Lord’s Supper are covenant signs
Dispensationalism: Often seen as symbolic memorials only
Eschatology
Covenant Theology: Typically amillennial or postmillennial
Dispensationalism: Always premillennial and usually expects a pre-tribulation rapture
Final Word
Christ does not have two brides.
He has one Church. One people. One Kingdom. Forever.
🛠️ Your charge:
Don’t raise your kids to wait for a rapture. Raise them to build the Kingdom.
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